By bmike

2011-05-10 21:12:24 8 Comments

I have been reading up on SSD technology current as of 2011 and don't know of any first hand reports on what happens when an SSD eventually fails due to over use. I am most interested in the SSD that apple includes as a factory option - but aftermarket information is certainly welcome.

If there are no overt signs of aging and wear, might it be possible to measure how much extra storage space remains to cover for failures and wear leveling? (assuming the SSD controller will pool memory and avoid bad/overused blocks before failure)

I am somewhat familiar with failure modes of hard drive storage but looking for similarities or differences between HDD and SSD. For example, the OS can detect (presumably using fsck and journaling) problems writing new data reliably to a HDD and warns you the drive is now mounted in read only mode. Tools like Drive Genius allow all sorts of testing specific to HDD but I'm unaware of tools that dig into SSD for whatever data may be available.

Rather than guessing or predicting how long an SSD will last, are there objective measures we can take to document how storage is aging and check in on wear leveling statistics to measure what happens when SSD are close to the end of their useful lives?


@bmike 2015-08-20 14:08:29

After 4 years of abusing all manner of Apple selected SSD, I can conclusively say that the drives I have used are more reliable than HDD and have exhibited none of the potential drawbacks or cost associated with HDD failure modes in practice.

For the first few computers I purchased, I did pay for AppleCare for several reasons.

  • I had decent discounts on it
  • I figured I would probably push the SSD harder than the average user and I was happy placing the risk and responsibility on Apple to repair my Mac should I choose to use it too much.
  • I wasn't confident that third party SSD repair parts would be viable

The last two years, I have not gotten AppleCare and still am very happy with SSD. My macs run the following programs routinely and exercise the storage to the 80% full level:

  • iTunes match and now music constantly adds offline songs and removes them as I fill up the drive
  • I use local snapshots for Time Machine which also keeps all manner of file around until I reach a low storage point and backup files get purged programmatically by the OS
  • Splunk - ingesting and storing system logs from multiple macs - this tool is high IO
  • LAMP/MEAN stack running pretty much constantly
  • Xcode - moderate use
  • Virtual Machines - moderate use

I haven't yet had a failure, so my results are that the SSD are over engineered and other components will fail before the drive. Of course some people will see failures, but that those are both rare and less than the HDD failures people had to deal with in the past.

My advice would be to not place any extra thought on SSD durability for OS X/Mac hardware and just size your computer for your storage size needs and your speed requirements. If you get AppleCare and 3 years of Apple backing the drive, great. If you don't and then have to pay for a repair or pay for a third party SSD replacement, great too.

@Martin Marconcini 2011-05-11 09:03:33

"Does it just get slower and slower running garbage collection more and more often trying to find a place to store data as the flash storage system degrades?"

^^ This is what I've seen on two occasions (Aftermarkets tho, possibly the same in Apple drives).

They didn't entirely stop working because I eventually replaced them, since things become like a Windows XP after three years of use and no maintenance.

Another SSD I remember failing did it probably from day three, when it failed to mount on a few occasions. Then it failed to mount again later the same day until it eventually never mounted again. It was under warranty and I replaced it.

The SSDs I still have (non Apple) don't show signs of shrink, probably because the space you lose is not a lot compared to the size of the drive. I'm guessing that would be the case.

Although drives tend to live 2-3 years (SSDs), I'd say be prepared for a -possible- change after 1 year.

@bmike 2011-05-11 13:26:27

Excellent information - especially since any new tech will have more initial failures it will be hard to separate the modes of premature failure from modes of eventual failure. thanks for calling both out :-)

@bmike 2011-05-13 21:47:50

I've seen several mentions on twitter of people doing a yearly erase of their MacBook air and hoping for Lion and trim support to address this.

@Martin Marconcini 2012-12-11 18:55:50

For the record, my MBA has 1.5 years now and running 10.8. Never did an erase but I filled the drive once (by mistake). After removing the offending files everything went back to normal. To be honest I didn't feel anything strange when there were 'only' 20GB Free, but I panicked and proceeded to remove files. My MBA has a 256GB drive. (Mid-2011).

@bmike 2012-12-11 19:00:04

Now that TRIM support has been added to just about all Macs with SSD from Apple - things seem to run very smoothly without needing any erases. Even with versions, local Time Machine storage, my 256 SSD hasn't come close to 2/3 full (same vintage as yours).

@lhoBas 2011-05-11 06:53:11

My aftermarket Intel SSD had a bad sector, which was reported by Disk Utility. From my understanding, the SSD will get slower and eventually have more bad sectors, which will be noticed if you do a Disk Utility scan.

Warnings because of SMART-data reporting more disk errors than acceptable aren't build into the OS, as far as I know. Disk Utility does show SMART errors, but not in much detail. Tools like SMARTReporter will give you warnings when your SSD is degrading.

@Fake Name 2011-05-11 08:22:49

Also, some aftermarket SSDs don't even support SMART, so be careful.

@JustSid 2011-05-11 09:39:18

Plus: Even if SMART says your disk is in awesome condition, it can still

@bmike 2011-05-11 13:28:01

With SSD - the idea of a "sector" is still confusing to me. I assume the drive controller has a virtual map of what it pretends is a real sector but in practice is mapped all over the place in cells on the flash storage and subject to garbage collection and relocation/ refreshing as needed.

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